Hi Cupcake,
DH has gone off to Scotland in van with our stuff but left me his laptop.
Sorry to hear your doctors advice.I cant believe they wont let you have the AMH result!
My GP did my AMH for me and didnt charge. Is your clinic NHS?
We were told by our NHS clinic that as AMH so low IVF would not work and could not have trt there, I guess they were right! But other areas dont use AMH and use only FSH levels. doesnt seem fair.
I know what you mean about donor trt, doesnt always work but I think some clinics have very good success rates esp in Spain as they use very young donors so the eggs are very good quality.
I'm not sure what to do next, trying to forget about it at the moment but there are pregnant women everywhere.My new boss is the same age as me and has 5 kids!! Not fair, I only want one!!!
The doc who told me to cancel my cycle said it was worth trying again as am still having periods. i will wait to see what my Dr says, i was hoping to at least get to embryo transfer with this cycle and gutted after injecting £1000 worth of drugs!!
Review is in 2 weeks. I think I would like another go but will have to have 2 weeks off work and fly down to London for my scans, if I book early enough i can get some cheapy ryanair flights. I have had some awful headaches this cycle. Do you get those? i know its all hormone related, I keep trying to pinpoint when symptoms of (dare I say it?) menopause started.Was very tired and grumpy when came off pill when I was 32. also got spotting 2 or 3 days before period started, cycle went to 25 days- asked Dr if it was early menopasue and she said- no, periods get further apart - how wrong she was!!!
Well its all water under the bridge now!As u said before, wish I had had a crystal ball.
Hope you are feeling a bit better today. I'm off to clean the house so we get our deposit back, that should take my mind off things!
I am feeling very drained and miserable. Feeling sooo physically tierd as well. Day 31, and am hoping to get a period sometime soon. As I said on previous post last one was day 23, it was a huge shock as af never came before day 28. So things not looking great at the mo in terms of entering menopausal 'territory'!
I just want my period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My clinic is NHS and they never said when they sent me for the amh blood test that there was a charge of any kind! I don't understand, and resent having to have it again, should have been told before.
I am considering putting a complaint in about this, hope that then there would be at least a full explaination. I thought the advice on what to do next was going to based on the amh result. If paying meant they could release the test that wouldn't be so bad, I actually have to have the blood taken all over again! I have trouble getting blood and so due to this always go to the main hosp, not the clinic. Unfortunately due to the pay issue I wud have to have it done in clinic only, which cud mean hrs of trying and very bruised arms! Sorry for the rant!
I went to the clinic counsellor recently, been a few times. She said what I am going thru now over my own eggs is like grief. I do feel devastated and have been having some very blue days. I feel for you having so many pregnant wmen around you! As u say we only want one!!!
How are u doing? If ur still having periods I wud be tempted to try again. As I got to emybro transfer stage when we did IVF before I wud have liked to have tried again but alas, my body seems to have made the decision for me by cocking up the menustrating bit! We got to the emybro transfer stage against the odds, it can and does happen.
Re: headaches I am not too bad at the moment. I have had some real bad migraines over the last few years, starting about age 33. I also started to get really bad insomina and felt over-anxious. I wasn't how can I put it 'myself' but like u was treated on several occassions by dr's as if all was fine. My fsh was actually high at that age but my Dr was too incompetent/ignorant to care. It was only because I went to a private gynae aptment that I saw a copy of my bloods, and did some research! We women know our own bodies, when will dr's realise that!
I expect the same ' your too young' reply if I approach a dr again in the near future. It makes me cross! Apparently my periods can't suddenly stop, so let's hope that a dr is right for once and that they don't!!!!
I hope ur move went okay. Sorry for going on, its just I know u understand.
Love and Babydust
Cupcake xx
***Good luck for your review, is it on the 17th feb?***
Hi Cupcake,
Move to Scotland has gone well but my Mum has been ill so have been to see her and not spent much time in the new place!
Has your period arrived yet? I'm still waiting for mine, I suppose if the follies were dying it takes some time for the hormones to adjust, hope it arrives soon.
I wouldnt blame you for making a complaint. Under the freedom of information act we are entitled to see the things that are written about us and have access to our medical records so you should be able to see them if you write in. We had blood tests done at our NHS clinic and needed them for our new clinic, so I wrote to the IVF dept and they sent photocopies of the records. It cost £15 I think. It may be worth doing.
You are not going on at all, its good to vent these things and not let them build up!! Most of my friends dont understand so its good to have someone to chat to who does!
Did you find the councellor good? I think I will look into it when I get back.
I hope you are feeling a bit better, I'm sure all the messing about with medication must have some sort of effect with our cycles. it will prob settle down if you have a rest from it for a bit.
Love and babydust,
Poppycat x
PS review is 23rd, they said we could have a telephone appt but me and DH not great on the phone, its nice to see someone face to face!
So sorry to hear ur mum has been poorly, how is she now?
Still no period and its day 38 I think. It feels mega weird not to have a period! Perhaps this is the end of my periods? Like u say I am hoping my body is adjusting somehow, but its not looking too good at present.
The Counsellor can be a bit 'counsellor-ly' at times if u know what I mean! She can wander off too much into 'theories' at times, but I guess thats her training!! I need all the help I can get at the moment to cope with all the sorrow I am feeling.
Whenever I come on the board I wish I could participate on the 'maternally hopeful over 35's thread'
but alas its not meant to be. I read it sometimes, its a shame how stressed some wmen get when they didn't get enough follicles when they have eleven or something, we wish!! I would love to be in that position.
I feel a bit of the outside of this site at the moment because I am no longer in the ivf camp, but not yet in the egg donor one. There doesn't seem to be much said on this part, i.e. the adjustment to the end of ur own eggs part. I guess because its just too devastating and heartbreaking to dwell on.
I am off work this week which is needed, as feeling very tierd and 'out of sorts' as u can imagine.
I got a lovely valentine card from DH and some gorgeous roses. Hope u had a nice valentines day, fitted in somewhere with all that u have going on at the moment.
Good luck for 23rd, I can't imagine how a tel aptment would work in this instance so glad u got a face to face aptment.
Keep in touch
Love and Babydust (or maybe 'egg donor dust ' in my case!!!)
Cupcake xx
Hi Cupcake,
I have been trying to post a long reply to you but for some reason it wont let me.
I will try it again tomorrow after I have had my appt.
I still have no period too, I will ask the doctor about it and let you know.
Hope you are feeling OK.
Love and babydust
poppy x
Hi Cupcake,
Great news about your period- sometimes I get cramping for a day before bleeding so hopefully its on its way. Bet you never thought you'd be happy to have your period arrive!
My mum is OK now, thanks. She has been having mini strokes but she feels better now and the Dr is changing her medication. Its just she is so far away that I worry about her.
Appt went OK. Dr said she will give us one more try and recommended the same protocol as I didnt get any dominants this time. She said the reason it stalled was that the eggs/follies were no good, she says this does happen and may happen again, its the luck of the draw.
I told her my period hadnt come yet and she said leave it a bit longer and if still doesnt arrive to let her know and I would need a scan and tests and an injection can be given to bring it on.Obviously if its doesnt arrive its bad news!
I'm hoping it will as I got EWCM last week so hopefully I was ovulating then and period should arrive in 2 weeks- fingers crossed.
There are POF support sites (i dont seem to be able to post its name but its a site with daisy in the name) and I just noticed that they have a forum.
Me and DH went to a donor conception workshop last year, it was very helpful to meet other people in the same position and we swapped contact details to keep in touch. It was mainly people needing sperm donors, there were 2 other ladies for egg donation- they were mid 40s, They have a site and you can sign up(if you havent already done so, cant seem to post name of it) and they send you info
I was on my clinic board during my last cycle but not really been on it since as feel a bit of an outsider at the mo as not having trtment so I know what you mean.
How does your DH feel about it all? I feel sorry for my Dh as he often feels upset and has no one but me to talk to about it.
I'm feeling a bit glum after the appt as I feel it may be the beginning of the end for me. I think we will do this cycle for closure and with then have to move on. Feeling a bit fed up about NHS not funding any of our treatment, they just said it wouldnt work and that was that. I might ask my GP if they would do me an NHS prescription for my next cycle, they can only say no!
I hope you are feeling a bit more positive, its so hard to come to terms with the possibility of not having a biological child- this whole IF thing is rubbish, wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy!
Me again. Yes I was thrilled to have a period, despite it being very very heavy. Like u say how funny to feel so happy about a period arriving!!! To be honest I think taking clomid for iui has made my reproductive situation worse, and got my body all confused somehow? Can't prove it obviously but perhaps it shudn't be used where defunct ovaries is an issue? Just a thought.
Glad to hear ur mum is okay, and that she has been able to try diff meds. I bet u do worry being far away.
When r u starting again? U cud get better follies/eggs this time? U just never know do u? Hope ur period has arrived now.
Thanks for info on sites. Its horrid when u feel a bit of an outsider isn't it? As ur used to getting support there, and feeling there are others in the same boat.
Like u my DH wud only talk to me about things. If we try for egg donation at own clinic he will have to do counselling as well which will prob help him. I don't know about u but I hate it when my dh cries! Its not that men shudn't its just I hate 2 see him upset by anything!
Yep the nhs is crap and getting worse, so short sighted in what it will and won't do but often results in more costs for nhs in the end! Its madness!
I am having a major spring clean, out with the old! The sunshine we are having at the mo is making life a bit more bearable at the mo as well! I have counselling friday so will be able to have more of a vent. I am a bit like a pressure cooker at the mo, okay for a while but can feel all the emotions building up again so clling helps with that.
Let me know how u r getting on
Take care my friend
Love and Babydust
Cupcake xx
Hi Cupcake,
Sorry for being so rubbish at keeing in touch.
I went on a girlie holiday to Egypt ( just what I needed) and have now started a new job which is very busy and stressful, feel completely drained at the end of the day. Just fall into bed, hopefully it will calm down soon and I will feel a bit more relaxed.
How are things with you? Are you still having your counselling?
We did have a session at the nhs clinic but were only allowed one as we were kicked out as not under treatment! We just spent the time bawling so not much use! Yes it really upsets me when DH cries but hes quite a softy and does cry quite often.
Luckily my period started at the end of the holiday, never so pleased to see it! have your cycles settled down a bit?
You mentioned clomid. As u said I dont think its great for us high FSHers, I think its supposed to really mess up the natural cycles and also when I took it it wrecked my lining.I'm surprised your clinic gave it to you, my friend had 3 rounds of IUI and took menopur for them(150iu I think)
Hopefully starting my IVF cycle in May, I am going to a clinic in Edinburgh for monitoring. I think I am going to have to take some holiday as its about and hour and a halfs drive away.
Trying to block it out at the moment, hoping it will happen naturally before then, and pigs can fly!!
Went back to see the psychic before I left Manc ( what a sucker!)
and she said I may have twins and it will happen naturally( yeah right)
Hope you have a lovely clean house after your spring cleaning,
Look forward to hearing from you
Just got back today from lovely holiday on Norfolk coast. It was so relaxing and I loved being so near the beach. I saw some seals, they were really close to the beach.
My period came 2ward the end of the holiday, day 31. So I am feeling more normal now!! and hope my cycles r settling down again. I guess the relaxation, exercise and sea air helped here.
Glad to hear that u got a holiday in too, and that it worked for getting ur AF too! Hope work isn't taking too much out of you, hope it quietens down soon. Its not good for ur body all that stress.
Got counselling monday, feeling ready to go again. It just helps me let off some steam about feeling useless!! I do spend a lot of the sessions crying but it helps to vent! Its not for everyone of course, but it seems to be the right time for me to go at the moment.
Yes I am sure that the clomid has a lot to answer for in my case. I had iui with clomid and menopur. I asked if I could just take the menopur but they declined this. However I never took the clomid for the third go at iui because of the fear of what it was doing to my lining, as by the 2nd go of taking it my lining was already being affected. Lining had never been a problem before!
Has ur lining recoved from taking it now do u know? Good luck for ur next ivf cycle in may, not long now.
Yes I keep hoping that I will somehow prove the drs wrong and fall pregnant naturally. U never know do u??
Wouldn't it be great if u did have twins without having to go thru all this palava.
I have been talking to someone who wants to donate eggs on that thread, as she is in my area I responded. I won't rush into anything, will find out more. Its very powerful when u want a baby so much isn't it? We can be vulnerable at times, as u said with ur psychic visit. Not that I am against it, its just we could be vulnerable as we want it so bad.
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